Tressel, Minnesota, and Defenders of the Big 10

by Annapolisbuckeye on October 21, 2009

Under intense scrutiny from fans and reporters alike, Coach Tressel stood up at Tuesday’s press conference and did exactly what Coach Tressel always does — say nothing of substance. He faced some tough questions too. Should Pyror have been benched for Bauserman? When Beockman had a bad game turnoverwise against USC, you started Pryor the next game. Isn’t this a similar scenario?

Over and over again, the reporters questioned Tressel’s support of Pryor and Tress stuck to his guns. Other questions regarding offensive play calling, penalties, whatever didn’t do much better. According to Tressel, there is data we don’t know about, things we don’t see in practice that support his answers. While this may be the case, what we do see is the performance of the last three weeks or so which leaves me to wonder — how bad are things in practice? This is the best we’ve got?

Bob Hunter of the Columbus Dispatch has a great column this morning summarizing the press conference. I think his exact words were, “Bleah.” Hunter said that he was ready with the big guns and yet Tressel managed to differ 13 questions regarding Pryor. More poignant however, is that Hunter is recognizing a trend we’ve seen before with John Cooper and with Earl Bruce. Is history repeating itself?

Vegas Still Believes
I don’t know what the odds makers see that we don’t but the spread is currently 17 1/2 in favor of the Buckeyes over Minnesota. Maybe they see something in the offense that the rest of us don’t but at this point, we need a radical shift from the decline of the last two weeks for the Buckeyes to cover.

That doesn’t mean they won’t.

At the very least, last weekend’s loss to Purdue should have been a wake up call. One thing Tressel said in his press conference was that going into the game, the Buckeyes weren’t taking Purdue seriously. While we still don’t know if the offense can do it, we do know our defense can. If they step up and play like they were playing, Minnesota is in trouble.

Minnesota has one thing going for it and that’s wide receiver Eric Decker and Penn State pretty much shut him down last weekend. They’ve tried the run without much success and most important, Minnesota quarterback Adam Weber doesn’t seem to do well under pressure. If anybody can pressure a quarterback, it’s Kurt Coleman and company. The Buckeyes have the secondary to handle the pass. If the defensive line can bring their four man attack, they can shut down Minnesota.

This of course leaves us with the offense. While I’m sure they heard the message, can they do anything about it. While the defense might be good for a touchdown or two, nothing so far says the offense is. One good thing to note, the Buckeyes aren’t much for losing streaks. You have to go to 2004 before you find the Buckeyes stringing together losses.

Before the game, I said that Purdue might be just what the doctor ordered. Although I was way off in my reasoning (and my apologies to Purdue), it still may hold true. A good drubbing might be just what Pryor and company needed. I sure hope so.

Strength of the Big 10
In my post game frustration Saturday, I wrote a somewhat tongue in cheek post about the strength of the Big 10 and the difficulty of the conference. While the general consensus was that I’d lost my mind, a couple of defenders have actually come to my rescue.

“Barga” left a comment demonstrating how if you run the numbers, the Big Ten actually comes out second only to the SEC. His post lead me to another, more in depth analysison The Rivalry Esq. which again, demonstrates the strength of the Big 10.

While the Rivalry analysis is somewhat in depth, he does run the numbers a couple of different ways and Barga adds yet another all coming up with the same results.

Reading The Rivalry’s analysis may take a while but there are a couple of choice comments from the end of the post that I strongly agree with:

“First, the ascendancy of the SEC over the last several years and the great year that the Big 12 had in 2008 seems to have pushed those two conferences to the forefront of commentators and voters thoughts when evaluating the conferences relative power among the BCS, regardless if this is matched by play on the field or not…

“Finally, while the middle schools of the SEC, the Big 12, and the Pac-10 are mediocre and the bottom schools truly rotten, the dominance of the conference power houses (Florida, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, and USC) casts a halo around the rest of the conference that makes their conference look stronger as a whole. With OSU’s recent faltering, the Big 10 doesn’t really have a star team that has the same effect…

Part of what helps Florida cast such a glow over some of the lesser SEC schools is that when they play teams perceived as easier they tend to beat them by 40 or 50 points. While I personally find such pummeling of inferior competition distasteful, it’s clear that it makes an impact in the broadcast world. This is most easily illustrated by the attention that the major college football broadcasters – ESPN and CBS – pay to the SEC. Heck, they’ve even got a new SEC / ESPN logo these days. Dare to dream, I suppose…

“Perhaps if Iowa continues their play and earns some style points along the way this all will change. The ideal situation for the Big 10 as far as reputation gathering goes, would be for the trio of Iowa, Penn State, and Ohio State (or another three, though those are currently the most likely) to return to dominance and stay there for a few years. This would then hopefully start to change the pervasive, yet misleading, aura of weakness around the Big 10.

Notice how he didn’t mention Michigan?

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{ 13 comments… read them below or add one }

gulfportcarl October 22, 2009 at 9:46 am

I watched Tressels press conference after ther Purdue loss. Bland, Bland, Bland, no substance at all. When asked why he went for a field goal down 23-7 he said he needed points. I do think a touchdown whould trump a field goad any day.
A couple thoughts, 1. I’m thinking he has no confidence in his offence to get two yards, but he can’t come out and say so at his press conference. 2. Maybe he promised Pryer he would make his into a passing, pro style quarterback and didn’t tell anyone.
17 points eems like a lot when you take into concideration the way the offense has been playing. I think I will take the points and run.
All that said I’ll be watching with my flag flying like always. A Buckeye forever.

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Barga October 22, 2009 at 1:33 pm

-Carl

I do believe that Tres promised Pryor so much that it is harming the team. I go into that in my sports column over on blogcritics ( http://blogcritics.org/sports/article/terrelle-pryor-and-the-terrible-twos/ )

-Annap
thanks for the links and all of that. The author of the other site, another commentor, and myself are working out a system that uses all of the numbers, and creates something based on all teams in the conference. It is sad when people studying law (or, in my case, that is next year) are playing in excell with stats.

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Annapolisbuckeye October 22, 2009 at 1:56 pm

No sadder then a guy who should be hunting down paying gigs is blogging about Ohio State football.

Keep me posted on the stats. I’m behind anything that provides a counterpoint to the SEC/anti-Big Ten bias that is ESPN and others.

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Annapolisbuckeye October 22, 2009 at 1:59 pm

Oh, and from one Ohio State English major to a soon to be English minor, the blogging is good for the writing chops. I’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of this blog over the years.

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Barga October 22, 2009 at 2:17 pm

@annapolis

actually, it kinda does pay. The Clippers, Crew, and Jackets give me free spots in their boxes and food, saving me tons of cash. It is also not blogging (not on BC anyways, on whalertly,it is), I am technically a reporter

I also have a paying gig, with the state AG at the moment.That ends after winter 1/4, so back to being a food slave

the stats of the site or the stats of the BCS number crunching?

wow, i like new paragraphs for single sentences

I have the minor in english, polysci is the major on philos. is another minor. I have been writing for ages, with the articles on BC (actual articles) and my own blog on whalertly. Seeing that I am going into law, this may or may not help…

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Barga October 22, 2009 at 2:20 pm

oh, wait, you are talking about yourself…
ignore me

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Annapolisbuckeye October 22, 2009 at 3:08 pm

Free tickets and press passes!! You hear that Ohio State!! I’m available. The pros caught on to the value of bloggers a while ago. The NCAA, not so much. A number of the Big Ten Bloggers did go to Chicago for Big Ten media days so they’re coming around.

Glad to see you’re cashing in on the writing. I went solo about a year ago and haven’t looked back. The blogging experience is paying off as I’m teaching businesses how to do it and doing some ghost blogging. (Yes, that is a plug for anyone reading. I’m available.)

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Barga October 22, 2009 at 3:11 pm

not to OSU stuff though… actually, if I tried everything but football, now that i am certified in other pro sports, i might be able to pull it off

I really just like doing it too, even if it doesn’t pay much (if anything). I love writing, but, I know, when I hit law school, it will leave me for 3 years…

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buckeyemark53 October 22, 2009 at 8:17 pm

As you point out, Tressel, Cooper, and Bruce all come from the same school of addressing the press by saying nothing… and maybe that’s the way it should be. Other teams aren’t able to glean any worthwhile information and what really is going on stays “in the family”. As I stated in previous weeks, I’m an eternal optimist, so the Buckeyes are bound to have a breakout game, it just wasn’t Purdue as I had originally thought. “On any given day”… that held true for Purdue when the entire team took them lightly on the same weekend. Go Bucks!!

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buckeyemark53 October 22, 2009 at 8:24 pm

Some Cooperisms I always got a kick out of… “If a dog’ll bite, he’ll bite as a pup” and “I doesn’t catch up with ya until it catches up with ya”.
If you really look at the season this far, turnovers are the difference between what we have now and being undefeated. Take away the interceptions and fumbles and OSU is sitting at 4 or 5 in the country. So, long story short, if Pryor just doesn’t hurt us, we’ll be OK. Forget about helping us, just don’t hurt us. OH-IO!

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buckeyemark53 October 22, 2009 at 8:25 pm

Some Cooperisms I always got a kick out of… “If a dog’ll bite, he’ll bite as a pup” and “It doesn’t catch up with ya until it catches up with ya”.
If you really look at the season this far, turnovers are the difference between what we have now and being undefeated. Take away the interceptions and fumbles and OSU is sitting at 4 or 5 in the country. So, long story short, if Pryor just doesn’t hurt us, we’ll be OK. Forget about helping us, just don’t hurt us. OH-IO!

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david brown October 25, 2009 at 12:18 pm

Wow penalties were low: turnovers were low: And one thing i noticed is that the play got called in with over ten seconds left on the play clock. They all add up too winning big. If you watched all the times pryor had too rush the snap or delay of game or wasting a timeout it kind of makes sense that pryor doesn’t look panic stricken when he first gets the ball. Way too go refs for not screwing us again. defensive penalties are bad; offensive penalties are drive killers

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bosshawk October 26, 2009 at 2:38 pm

Let me first say that I was very encouraged by our Buckeyes performance against the Golden Gophers on Saturday. They looked like a much more confident team. T.P. seemed to show patience and good discernment. I also noticed that he seems much more comfortable running a 2-minute offense. I wasn’t even upset with the interception too much. The throw wasn’t that bad. However, there was probably a better option for him. He plays more with his natural talent and skill during the 2-minute drill. He appears not to second guess himslf as much. He even displayed a little “swagger” at times. Swagger is good! The opposition then knows they are dealing with a confident quarterback. I still question our play calling but there appeared to be better execution of plays called. I don’t know what to attribute that to. Is it the coaching finally being able to reach the player or the player stepping up and doing what is asked of him? Either way, i’m a happy camper. The stats looked much better. I feel we should always have numbers like that.

Has anyone been noticing what Nathan Williams has been doing on the field? He is a beast. He and Gibson prove to be quite a tandem. Has anyone thought about moving him to linebacker? I think he would be better served there; especially next season. If Tyler Moeller is able to come back at a competitive level we should be in very good shape next campaign. Wait a minute. I’m getting way ahead of myself. Let’s deal with this season. We have some tough games coming up. GO BUCKS!!!!

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