Chris Speilman Speaks Out, Pryor’s New Ride and SI’s ‘Big Lie’

by Annapolisbuckeye on June 2, 2011

Spielman Speaks Out

Chris Spielman spoke out this week on 97.1 The Fan expressing his anger and frustration with the players, his feelings about Coach Tressel’s resignation and the potential for big NCAA sanctions (a big ht to Sports Radio Interviews for the tip). Throughout the interview, you could hear the pain in his voice, a pain that we are all feeling.

Is this the best you can do Michigan? Given the opportunity, I'm not impressed.


He may have summed up the Coach Tressel resignation best when he said that it is hard to see this happen, “When you have a pretty good track record over the years for probably 95% of your career doing things the right way and being a positive influence on kids and winning football games and championships but you make one poor decision and there are poor consequences.”

He went on to say that although it was a poor decision, Tressel did the right thing by stepping down and feels that he should have stepped down earlier saying that it was the honorable thing to do adding,”…You’re held to a high standard in a position of authority and you have responsibility like he has and you make a mistake and you cover it up for a year and you don’t tell the truth no matter your intent…it was still a huge mistake with severe consequences.”

Although it may not appear like it in some of my earlier posts on this blog, I agree with Spielman. The key word here is “intent.” Tressel did the honorable thing by stepping down. By stepping down from the only job Coach Tressel has ever aspired to do, he has personally paid the most severe consequences. However, as I’ve said all along, when the NCAA looks at this situation, they have to look at intent.

I say again, this is not USC folks. Although everyone seems to want to lump the two together, we are not talking about a pay for play situation. We are talking about fans who wanted to get close to Ohio Sate athletes and Ohio State athletes who took advantage of the situation.

We also don’t have a coach bailing out for the NFL in order to avoid the heat. We have a coach stepping down because it was the only thing left to do. Given the choice, he would have stuck around.

Spielman summed up what most Ohio State fans are thinking when he said, “Coaches can’t be held responsible for the idiot decisions kids make. I’m mad. I mean selfish decisions that young men make.”

And that’s what this comes down to – selfish decisions that young men, or better, “kid” have made. They may have learned their lesson but in the process, they took down a good coach.

Pryor’s New Ride
After seeing Terrell Pryor arrive in his 2007 Nisson 350z, I assumed one of three things was going on:
1) Pryor is a complete idiot showing up anywhere with a car obtained in violation of NCAA rules while undergoing a NCAA investigation.

2) The car is legit and he has nothing to worry about.

3) Pryor has already signed a deal with an NFL agent, probably sometime in early April/late March and is already gone.

And although I’m not ruling out No. 3, the Columbus Dispatch is reporting that option No. 2, the car is legit, may actually be true. According to the Dispatch, Pryor’s attorney released a bill of sale showing that Pryor’s mother recently bought the car. Apparently, after trade in of a Doge Charger, she paid $11,435.06 and is financing the car over 51 months.

Although I don’t know the trim level of Pryor’s new ride, Kelly Blue Book shows a top price of around $23,000 for a car of that age and miliage and the dealer listings on Kbb.com in the Columbus area show a high price of $25,998 for a car with only 8,900 miles.

I don’t know the year or condition of Pryor’s Doge but there isn’t anything here that shows he got a better deal than I could swing myself. Heck, I just traded in a Scion with 80,000 miles and did about that good.

Pryor’s lawyer also responded to the suspended license situation saying that Pryor did have insurance at the time of his citation.

So far, the car dealing stories aren’t panning out. Not saying they won’t but as of this point…

Spielman for Coach
I’ve felt for some time that Chris Spielman would make a great Ohio State coach. It would be hard to find anyone out there with the same passion for Ohio State along with the knowledge and love of the game as Chris Spielman.

In his interview with 97.1 the Fan, Spielman was asked about the possibility of becoming an assistant coach under interim Coach Luke Fickle. You could tell in his answer that this is something Spielman has considered. After pausing for a second or two, Spielman said, “I would do anything in the world for him (Luke Fickell) but my obligation is to what I do know, what I do for a living now. And with four kids, I’m basically starting a new life….The one thing I fear is that I would turn into that person I was as a player, which wasn’t all bad, don’t get me wrong. I become totally consumed and I don’t want to be that guy anymore.”

As much as I like the idea of Chris Spielman as coach, I’ve got to respect that opinion. With the loss of his wife Stephanie and four kids, he is starting a new life and he has to do what is best for the Spileman family first.

Ray Issac Calls Sports Illustrated Article “Big Lie”
Ray Issac, former Youngstown State quarterback under coach Jim Tressel who was suspended for NCAA violations, said that this week’s SI.com article was a “big lie.” Issac, who spoke with Atlanta radio station 790 the Zone (again ht to Sports Radio Interviews for the tip), continued, “The article is chewed up. If you look at the article that reports what I allegedly said, it is poorly written, it doesn’t give any facts or clarity.” Issac went on to explain that he had never received the student report from his NCAA investigation until three weeks ago. He said he then told David Epstein, who cowrote the SI article, that he did not feel he could do the article based on privacy laws. “He added, he (Epstein) shredded this paragraph. It’s deplorable.”

Issac went on to  say, “If Coach Tressel had gotten any word that I was doing anything improper, Nick Cochran (Issac’s back-up quarterback) would have been starting a long time before that.” Issac pointed out that he had already been warned by Coach Tressel that if his performance didn’t improve, Cochran would be replaced by Cochran.

It is important to note that although the SI.com story may lead you to believe differently, Coach Tressel was cleared in the NCAA’s investigation of Youngstown State. Issac told 790 the Zone, “I am totally responsible for what I did at Youngstown State University. Every year from m the time I was on campus, from ’88 to ’91, Tressel had compliance seminars — not to deal with bookies, not to deal with drugs, not to deal with not buying or selling anything. I knew exactly what I was getting into when I met Mickey Monus [the booster implicated in the Youngstown State violations]. It is implied that on the first meeting that I had with Mickey Monus that I received $150. That is the biggest lie ever told. … Jim Tressel never ever knew anything about our dealings. I kept it secret.”

Issac said that the only way anyone, including Coach Tressel,  found out about his dealings with Youngstown State booster Mickey Monus was because Monus was indicted for embezzlement and checks written to Issac came out in the investigation.

I have to agree with at least some of what Issac is saying about the SI.com article. Although it may be true that tatoo shop owner Ed Rife had turned his shop into a hang out for Ohio State football players and all that comes with it, there are parts  of the article that look nothing short of a hatchet job. Unnamed sources reporting 20-year old rumors (ie. summer-camp raffles) and contested anonymous sources are not the stuff of Pultzer Prize winning journalists.

{ 21 comments… read them below or add one }

Gulfportcarl June 2, 2011 at 3:08 pm

I watched Spielmans interview on on ESPN the day the JT story broke. Iwas the same as Jim stated, but he also said he would his boys could play for JT any day. This seams to be a point that most people are ignoring. Andy Gieger sad the same thing in his interview I read on The O-zone.
I also believe Kirk Herbstreet said the same thing. If JT is such a bad coach why do I keep hearing people keep saying the same thing about JT?
On Terrell Pryor, to the best of my knowledge hia record as Ohio States quarterback was 31-5.
Regardless what think of him he is a dam good football player.

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Annapolisbuckeye June 2, 2011 at 3:12 pm

You’re right Carl. That was something else Spielman said in the interview:

“I feel sorry for the athletes who won’t get a chance to meet Jim Tressel.”

99% of what he did was great. He made a mistake and unfortunately, it has cost him his career.

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Dave Smith June 2, 2011 at 10:24 pm

This whole thing is making me sick to my stomach. I wanted Tress to stay, but it’s probably for the best that he has stepped down. As far as Pryor and the rest of the idiots, I’d prefer to never see them on the field again.
These kids obviously don’t care about anybody but themselves. I say cut them loose and let’s usher in the Braxton Miller era and hope he isn’t as lacking in character as the rest of these kids. Can we please get our shit together and represent Ohio State properly?

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GonzoHog June 2, 2011 at 10:41 pm

Now we’re blaming the kids for Tressell’s cover-up? Holy-Moly, you gotta be kiddin me, right?
The kids are put in certain situations by who? That’s right, the adults. Jim Tressell had an opportunity to at least help control the environment those kids were in. He did not.
His “intent” was to allow those kids to continue abusing the priveledges they recieve as a student/athlete at OSU. Why? Because they were important to Jim Tressell’s cause on the field, plain and simple.
Sure, they did wrong and I’m sure they will continue to do so just as long as someone will look the other way, (sound familiar?) just like ALL young people do.

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gulfportcarl June 2, 2011 at 11:00 pm

Gonzo, JT’s mistake was not reporting the incident when he first became aware. Then he told the NCAA he knew nothing of the incidents. Don’t you dare blame JT for the players misdeeds and lack of discresion. They knew they were wrong, Ray Small said so in his interview. You need to go back and read the blog all over again. There are some points you didn’t get.

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kilt1iron June 3, 2011 at 9:15 am

I read the two posts — Dave Smith, and GonzoHog — and I reason this:

GonzoHog has a t-shirt that reads “O-How-I-Hate-Ohio State” — and wears it to cheer himself up.

Dave Smith represents the Buckeye Nation.

Which would an “adult” (vs. “kid”) college football fan rather be around to watch a game?

Who can argue with my observation?

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Jim June 3, 2011 at 9:49 am

Oh…and sorry about the typos on this one. This is first draft stuff folks. Although I’m a little frustrated that somebody around here has seriously damaged the term, this stuff is pretty much Gonzo journalism.

Usually, I try to go back and correct late but paying work keeps getting in the way.

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Jim June 3, 2011 at 9:50 am

Oh…and sorry about the typos on this one. This is first draft stuff folks. Although I’m a little frustrated that somebody around here has seriously damaged the term, this stuff is pretty much Gonzo journalism.

Usually, I try to go back and correct later but paying work keeps getting in the way.

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Jay June 5, 2011 at 4:07 pm

It’s going to be tough that he stepped down but I think if we get a big name coach to replace him we can keep the recruiting at the level it needs to be. Just need to not make the mistake of picking the wrong coach like those from up north with Rich Rod. Spielman seems to be one of the most sensible voices in this situation as he doesn’t really seems to take sides and just wants the best for the program.

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GonzoHog June 5, 2011 at 5:11 pm

Hmmmmm,…..not sure where the facts got off track, but there’s no one here by the name of Gonzo hating on OSU. I have no beef with the OSU. My beef relates to nothing more than OSU fanmanship/blind homerism at it’s finest.
Sure, it’s great you love your program. It’s also great you still respect and admire the great things Jim Tressell did (the right way) for the program, but it’s simply deplorable that you still choose to sugar coat the wrong deed (no, it wasn’t a mistake, Gulf) he’s guilty of.
No one is making Jim Tressell out to be Jeffery Dalmer, probably not even the Michigan fans.
The biggest problem here is that OSU fans are so enamered with how much “integrity” Jim Tressell was supossed to have, they somehow just can’t seem to grasp how much of it he didn’t have after being convinced otherwise.

This is like the husband/wife, literally convinced their spouse of 10+ years has been nothing but 100% totally faithful until he/she was actually caught in the act of cheating/lying and are now somehow trying to convince themselves it isn’t as bad as everyone else is making it out to be.
I mean after all, he/she was literally perfect for 95% of the marriage, but he/she still got caught cheating/lying and the marriage will never be the same again. Does that finally hit home?
Can any of you guys honestly relate to that? Be honset with yourself.
Oh and by the way, recruiting doesn’t stop with talent and eligibility alone. It also has a lot to with Character and coachability. Tressell went after Terrell Pryor whole sale in the recruiting process. Now he has to live with outcome of that decision as well.

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Jim June 6, 2011 at 10:36 am

Nothing personal Gonzo…just showing my respect for the “Good Dr.,” the late Hunter S. Thompson.

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GonzoHog June 5, 2011 at 6:08 pm

This is probably one of the more non-biased articles I’ve read to date:

http://westvirginia.scout.com/

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GonzoHog June 5, 2011 at 6:13 pm

Bad link, I think this is it:

http://westvirginia.scout.com/2/1076631.html

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Dave Smith June 6, 2011 at 8:31 am

GonzoHog..

I’ll take these in order so they are easy to follow.

1. Damn right I’m blaming the kids! If there weren’t a handful of idiots thinking that the rules didn’t apply to them, there would have been nothing to “cover up”. Read the articles being written by their former teammates who didn’t break the rules and you will see that they feel the same.

2. His “intent” was not to allow these kids to continue abusing privileges, but to correct the situation and allow them to complete their college education. Making them better individuals in the long run.

3. If you are so fed up with OSU “homer-ism” on this blog, then by all means leave. Be sure to read the line at the top of every page that announces a “heavy Ohio State bias”. This applies to both Jim and the rest of us loyal fans.

4. Any article that is basing it’s facts on the bullshit that SI is calling journalism is just plain lazy and ignorant. But even as the accusations in the SI article are being dis-proven one by one, it doesn’t surprise me to see something like that come out of Morgantown. As a Ohio resident living on the WV border, I know that WVU fans take as much enjoyment out of bad talking Ohio State as they do burning couches.

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GonzoHog June 6, 2011 at 10:01 pm

1. Really? So why weren’t these “idiots” immediately suspended for the better good of…oh let’s say the “integrity” of the school, if nothing else?

2. Ah yes… it was their education he was really worried about. Gotcha.

3. What about those 5 players? You were making tons of excuses for these “idiots”, right up until ‘ol Father Jim was cut loose. What changed?

4. Who said anything about basing the article on SI? Can you present a few facts to back up this accusation or is this merely just more OSU homer journalism? Nevermind, I read the line.

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Not Alan June 6, 2011 at 10:58 pm

It’s OK Gonzo. This Buckeye is not blind and appreciates the outside world looking in. I like the fact that you and Tony, clearly outside the world of the Big 10, still visit us.

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Jim June 7, 2011 at 12:44 am

1) Because the Sugar Bowl begged OSU and the NCAA not to suspend them. Tressel was ready to bench them.

2) Gotcha what? If you don’t think Coach Tressel isn’t concerned about his players educations you really are proving your ignorance. When Maurice Clarett was released from prison, Coach Tressel was key in getting him back into Ohio State and working toward his education once again. Coach Tressel had every reason to cut that kid loose long ago–it’s not like he was going to play college ball again. Instead, he reached out to help him get back on his feet.

And before you go off on Clarett, remember, he got in trouble during the off season and after he did, he never played another game at Ohio State.

5) No, we weren’t making excuses for them. We all thought they made a stupid mistake. I have said all along however, that this wasn’t anything like what went down at USC. I stand by my earlier comments about the five suspended players.

6) Not only is the entire article based on the SI story, he’s working with one of the weakest parts of the story. In the SI story, you’ve got a Pultzer Prize winning “journalist” destroying his reputation by reporting anonymous rumors from 20 years ago. If Dohrmann and Epstein had an ounce of objectivity in them when they set out to write their story, they never would have said something like, “His integrity was one of the great myths of college football.”

They had an agenda which they clearly stated right there.

Add in Isaac’s version of events and the fact that Epstein reported without talking to Isaac (going entirely on interviews given 10+ years ago) or even reading the NCAA case against Isaac, or maybe the contested anonymous sources at the tattoo parlors and you’ve got some serious “homerism” posing a journalism.

At least I clearly state my biases.

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Not Alan June 7, 2011 at 6:30 pm

Well, this just in…TP isn’t coming back.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6636768

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GonzoHog June 7, 2011 at 6:31 pm

Easy Jim. I got the dad gum point you were trying to make, ok? I get it that the player’s education was part of the reason. The point I’m tyring to make is education wasn’t THE reason, as you seem to make it so resoundingly obvious as the reason why.

So, Tressell was ready to bench them you say? Please produce some evidence, as story, a link, anything, please…

Also, It was announced on ESPN radio today that Terrell Pryor will not play at all this coming season, but I’m sure you won’t mind this at all, since you’ve already thrown him and others under the bus for making Tressell cover up for them, right Jim? The entire Buckeye Nation should be singing good riddence right about now.

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Scott June 11, 2011 at 10:11 am

Buckeyes never cease to amaze me. I thought the U of M vs Buckeye rivalry was a nice thing until I lived in Cleveland for a year. The people I worked with were jerks non stop harping on how great the Buckeyes were and never letting up when they found out I graduated from U of M. I had no ill will toward OSU but there fans are such lunatics and haters that I wish only bad things for the program. Buckeyes take the joy and integrity out of the sport.

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Joe Bauserman July 11, 2011 at 10:40 am

Has anyone been to/ heard about Spielman’s football camp? This was the information I found online.

Join former Ohio State Buckeye, two-time All-American and four-time Pro Bowler Chris Spielman for football fundamentals and fun at the 2010 Chris Spielman Football Camp, proceeds benefit the Spielman Family Foundation.

July 18-20,2011
4:30-7:30
Dublin-Coffman High School
Ages 7-14
Each day, the campers will experience various stations, specializing in fundamental skills of football. Individual groups will be small to assure that each camper gets maximum instruction from the top football coaches in the Columbus area.

Campers will participate in daily games, stations, and skill contests during the Chris Spielman Football Camp. Each camper will be placed on a team according to his or her age.

Chris Spielman will give daily talks highlighting the finer points of the game of football and beyond. Parents and guests will be able to listen to camp guests in designated areas at each location.
Each Camper Receives:

• Camp T-Shirt
• Autographed Camp Team Photo
• 9 Hours of Expert Instruction
• Opportunity to Win Contests and Prizes
• A Fun and Educational Experience Guaranteed!
http://www.ChrisSpielmanCamp.com

Also heard that last year Tressel came and spoke. Seems cool just wondered if anyone knew more info about the camp before I signed my son up.

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